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You can’t control exposure with a single Rec709 LUT. Unless of course you have LUTs with different exposure corrections (-1 stop, -2 stops). Then you can do it that way as well. But why? Sony has this functionality built in.

@@RonaldKasper Maybe I still don't understand. I thought the whole point of your video was saying you're not controlling exposure with Cine EI; You're just previewing what your video will look like after you bring down the exposure in post. Wouldn't a rec 709 lut do that? It might not be able to show you various stops of exposure, but it'll give you a ballpark idea. So is Cine EI just a more tuned in, precise version of that or am I missing something?

@@bryanwendland235 maybe we’re talking about the same thing already, but I try it in different words. Yes you’re right, cine EI lets you view the image like it will look like after you brought it down in post. So you can record it one or two stops brighter to get less noise but you already see how your result will look like. How would you do that with a rec709 LUT that shows you the same exposure as the one you are recording right now?

​@@RonaldKasper a rec.709 lut would not show you the same exposure as what you're looking at in slog 3. A proper slog3 to rec.709 lut will show your slog footage (relatively) "properly" exposed. *EDIT* Sony's own video about their own rec.709 LUT say this, too, so it's not just me. *EDIT* To me it seems like the benefit of Cine EI is just the control you have over how many stops of underexposure you're previewing vs a LUT.

@@bryanwendland235 yes of course a conversion LUT shows the correct exposure, but just the same exposure as what you record. Cine EI is about recording a DIFFERENT exposure than what you see on screen.

Yes RUclips is a great source for solving most problems. Have fun with Resolve!

Therre surely is one that you can use with other cameras, the FX6 has cine ei for that purpose

Yes, and for everything else. It just doesn’t work well for long lenses (from 80mm on)

@@RonaldKasper So,it isn't good for my Sigma 135 mm 1.8

@@dandanu2526 no, I wouldn’t use it with that

@@RonaldKasper Thank you so much!

You‘re welcome!

Yes I‘ve heard from others in the comments of this video that they have the same problem with long lenses. On my 24-70 I didn’t notice any issue and I don’t have a longer lens.

@@RonaldKasper just message their office in indonesia. Lets see what the say about this. Just little concideration for the others who want to buy this knf for tele lens 🙂 thank you !

Hi! You can change this in the "monitoring" section of the menu. Set "SDI/HDMI" to Slog3 and set "VF" to "MLUT". That way, the lut is only applied for the internal camera monitor and your EI-values change the monitor exposure. But on the SDI/HDMI outputs, the SLOG3 signal is sent so this exposure doesn't change.

You‘re welcome, thanks for your comment!

Yes, or even easier: it’s like an exposure lut.

@@RonaldKasper Coming from a Panasonic GH5 I am going through hell right now with the menu's and clarity on what is going on with my shot and settings... Seriously considering selling the FX30 again for a S5IIX. Hope it gets easier.

It’s the same when I have a Panasonic in my hands 😉

Sorry, I don’t know that at all. It could be that the base ISOs for photos are different than for video. Depends on the shooting mode and the used picture profile

Sorry, I haven’t tested this one until now.

Thanks! Are you talking about what is shown on the screen at 1:49? I suggested the plugin „neat video“ here, although I switched to Davinci Resolve in the meanwhile where noise reduction can be made pretty easily in the studio version. So I didn’t mean that I made an own video about noise reduction.

@@RonaldKasper Ohh I see, thank you for your suggestion! Also have you made any videos explaining why you switched? I'm very curious!

thanks! Switched to what? Sony? I just thought it was the better camera when the A7siii came out, it hat 10 bit instead of 8 and now I live my FX6 that I use in combination. So at the moment, I‘m a Sony guy. Until the next best thing comes out from another brand 😂 And if you mean Davinci, yes I made a own video about it: ruclips.net/video/A54l_vQJJX4/видео.htmlsi=arKMWdI2KQ38rdVq

Hi Steven! Thanks for your comment! Yes I agree there are workarounds in FCPX and it’s not a bad NLE at all. But in Resolve you really have all the tools at your fingertips and the workflow just feels easier and more professional to me. The audio mixer is so great and the integrated effects suite (Fusion) really adds value as well. In general I feel that the Resolve community is growing like hell and FCPX doesn’t seem to get big updates. But use what you are happy with, it doesn’t depend on the NLE whether you make great videos or not 😉

Hi! Definitely stay at 12.800 and bring in more light whenever possible. I wouldn’t raise the ISO to 25600, I think you even get better results when you expose normally at 12.800 and use a little bit of noise reduction in your editing software.

Wow! Thanks for the fast answer. I still have one more question. What would you do in a non-ideal light situation like wedding reception where there is no way to control the lights? Is it better to raise the ISO to overexpose let’s say 2 stops and introduce more grain in camera but then lower the exposure in post or is it better to stay at zero? Considering that you shoot in S-log 3. Thank you very much for the answer😊

in this case I would overexpose by one stop and bring it down a bit in post. The problem is that brightening dark footage in post will give you bad results when parts of the footage are in the noise floor. Which means the almost black areas. Lifting the signal up from there doesn’t work well. So to be on the safe side, film it one stop brighter.

Thanks a lot!!

Thanks for your comment! Of course it always depends on the project, bit for me it were the effect shots that made it worth to shoot horizontally. I couldn’t figure out how to do this properly with a vertical FX6

That‘s enough for most situations 😉

Since I didn’t want to risk overheating anyone’s brain, I decided to not talk about shutter speed and it’s relation to Fstop, iso and nd in this video. 😉 I‘ll think about your video suggestion, thanks!

Thanks Jeff! Yes you're right of course, to make it less complex I based my example on the assumption that we work with a constant focal length.

I'm not a 100 percent sure, but I think you can't switch noise reduction off completely on the FX3. Only on the FX6. Your noise problem in the highlights is strange. Do you manipulate the colors of the image a lot? And could it be that you use incorrect color- or luminance qualifiers for that? That way, some pixels could be ignored by the qualifier and if you turn your sky blue, the others remain like originally shot. Just an idea.

Well it’s good glass. I agree Sigma makes lenses for half the price and I own a sigma 24-70 that I use a lot with my Sony Cameras. But there are a lot of expensive lenses, not only canon. I mean buy a G-Master, it’s the same price category. Not even talking about cinema lenses.

@@RonaldKasper A sony 24 70 f2.8 GM is cheaper than 1700, there are certain discounts, full price 1700 euros. The canon variant is 2100 euros. I doubt that Canon is clearly superior and deserves the difference. If we are talking about Sigma, it is 1500 euros. Canon is more expensive by over 300,400 euros for premium lenses. Just because they are Canon. Sony 70 700 f2.8 it is 2000 euros, Canon 2500 wtf.

Have fun with it! 👍

Thanks man! The comments are quite positive so I have no problems with reading them 😉 And yes, you will always have a few people that just stick to whatever they use and don’t want to hear that other stuff might be better. But that’s the minority in all of my comments.

Exactly. Think of it as an exposure LUT that you put on your ISO 12.800 footage to show it darker.

I wouldn't use normale paper, because most of it contains Optical Brightening Agents (OBAs.) They are used to convert invisible ultraviolet light into visible blue light to make the paper look more white (in most indoor scenarios) but with a blue cast. The extra blue creates an incorrect white balance in camera so it's better to use a white card (that's really cheap). The difference is not like night and day, but if you spend several thousand bucks for a camera and lenses, you might want to invest another 15 to get correct white balance :-) Next time I'd show the whole process, thanks!

You‘re welcome!

Yes, of course you could use the box when you film vertically as well!

What about it?

Sir ...noise came when iam shooting Output footage produce noise

@@nagendrasunkara1859 of you shoot with the FX30 the rules are the same as shown in the video. Although a smaller sensor like the one on the Fx30 has slightly more noise than a full frame sensor like on the FX3 or FX6

Thanks!

Thanks for your comment! This is a default functionality, it should be available in the free version as well!

@@RonaldKasper I am happy to hear! Thank you for your kindness in responding

Depends on the phone. Iphone has a 23 mm equivalent f/2.2-aperture lens

@RonaldKasper My phone is a Samsung galaxy a13. Have you used a siriu 60 mm lens for smartphones?

No I‘ve never used it

@RonaldKasper if I used a clip on 60 mm lens as this lens, can I remove the distortion in a selfie in a short distance?

The video helped the majority of people who watched it, to understand cine EI. Can I help you out with further information?

Thanks a lot!

Yes both have a slight color correction on them which could lead the color difference in some shots

Thanks for your comment! Now you can spend your saved money on other camera gear 😂

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I‘m happy to hear you like the channel! Unfortunately I don’t have an FX3 so I can’t make a specific video about it.

That‘s great, welcome to the channel!

Thanks a lot!

There are subtitles available in this video which you can translate to any language you want. I just tried it, works well.

Thanks!

Thanks a lot!